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Συζήτηση στο φόρουμ 'BDSM Τεχνικές' που ξεκίνησε από το μέλος margarita_nikolayevna, στις 16 Μαϊου 2015.

  1. brenda

    brenda FU very much


    Aκροθιγώς και παρεμπιπτόντως, έπεσε το μάτι μου σε αυτό το άρθρο που εξηγεί και τεκμηριώνει σε έναν βαθμό τον διαχωρισμό οργασμού και εκσπερμάτωσης και είπα να το βάλω εδώ, σχετικό-άσχετο με το νήμα, δεν πειράζει, ας το αναβιώσουμε. Βρίσκω το concept εξαιρετικά ενδιαφέρον και θα ήθελα να ρωτήσω αν έχει κάποιος άνδρας γνώση του διαχωρισμού, αν έχει ενδεχομένως εξασκήσει την αυτο-εντολή ή όχι.

    Orgasm & Energy
    4 Reasons Male Orgasm Is Not as Simple as Everyone Tries to Tell You


     
     
    Written by Omooni


    Wherever you look, there is the common belief that female sexuality is like a mystical, secret garden… an art form, while male sexuality is like a simple algorithm.

    Women require hours to orgasm (if they orgasm at all).

    Men need a tight grip and 5-7 minutes of in and out.

    Women need emotional safety for letting go.

    Men need a tight grip and 5-7 minutes of in and out.

    Women need to be treated like a goddess, with incense, foreplay and massage oil.

    Men need a tight grip and 5-7 minutes of in and out.

    You know what I’m getting at… there is an imbalance!

    I’m asking: is there really?

    Or are we perhaps looking at male sexuality in the wrong way?

    I think we are. When the media writes and talks about male sexuality, they are talking about a very superficial part of it.

    Having approached sexuality open-mindedly for most of my adult life, and having experimented with various set-ups, techniques, and traditions, I would say: there is much more to male sexuality than everyone talks about.

    So what is everyone getting wrong? Multiple things.

    #1: There Is a Huge Sensitivity Issue
    One of the major problems I see in mainstream sex is that men are disconnected from the sensations in their penis.

    Yep, exactly the same issue that many claim is the case for women and their vaginas.

    The cause is a different one though: men have bad self-pleasure habits.

     

    Way too many men suffer from one or another state of the death grip: they have lost precious sensitivity in their penis from masturbating too frequently with a too tight grip. The problem is all over the internet.

    But most act when it’s already pretty late… read: when they can’t come from vaginal or oral stimulation anymore, but only from handjobs (preferably given by themselves, because their partner’s grip is too weak).

    The second consequence of bad masturbation habits is too frequent ejaculation. As much as men hate to admit it, everyone knows it’s true.

    Remember the times when you didn’t ejaculate for a week and then had sex? An entirely different experience!

    Ejaculating less frequently is not an option for most men, because in mainstream sex, ejaculation equals orgasm. And that’s a very limiting belief that we have to work on. (More on this later coming later in the article.)

    #2: Stimulation Happens Mostly Locally
    Very connected to the lack of sensitivity down there, is the fact that male sexuality is often limited to happening down there.

    Women need to warm up their entire body before they are ready for genital stimulation. Men… are born ready.

    But what men need desperately and don’t know, is duringplay, rather than foreplay. Basically, they need full body stimulation and sensations during or after high states of genital arousal.

    A Tantra teacher first introduced me to this phenomenon, and I find it super interesting…

    If you want, it’s a reflection of the anatomical structure of the genitals: For women, it’s going from the outside to the inside. From full-body stimulation to local stimulation. For men, it’s going from the inside to the outside. From local stimulation to full-body stimulation.

     

    That’s pretty magical!

    And almost no men do this to themselves while masturbating. Nor do they ask their partners to do it.

    Try it, it’s an incredibly easy win!

    #3: The Impact of Gender Roles
    After generally not being very sensitive, another important reason for male sexuality being viewed as limited and simple is the impact of gender roles on our sexual behavior.

    Most men enjoy being the penetrator, and take on the more dominant role that comes with this. A role that is, at least emotionally, very simple.

    And there’s nothing wrong with that — I personally also enjoy it a lot, and practice it most of the time.

    But that is far from being all there is to be lived and enjoyed in the bedroom.

    All the emotional rewards that come from the more vulnerable aspect of sexuality (which is very present in female orgasms as we know them) are also available to men. But almost every man is blocked from accessing them.

    A man starting to cry while making love is unfortunately not something humanity seems to be ready for. But it’s beautiful. And only one facet of a high bandwidth of emotions that men tend to avoid.

    Men have an equal potential to surrender into the act of making love, but gender roles play a limiting role to prevent them from doing so.

     

    #4: Ejaculation Does Not Equal Orgasm
    Now comes what I think is the most important point of this article. And the previously made points compile beautifully into this one.

    Everyone underestimates the complexity of male sexuality.

    And the main reason for those limiting beliefs is that, in common knowledge, ejaculation equals orgasm.

    This is… unbelievably sad. And unbelievably wrong.

    Like women, men are capable of having different types of orgasms. Shallow orgasms, deep orgasms, peak orgasms, multiple orgasms, full body orgasms. And not all of them include ejaculation.

    Limiting the male orgasm to the common ejaculation orgasm is like limiting the female orgasm to a clitoral orgasm.

    It’s just… limited.

    So why is this limiting belief out there?

    Honestly, I have no idea. I’m actually quite flabbergasted by it. It’s not that no one is talking about it and teaching other ways.

     

    There’s Mantak Chia with his best-selling book, The Multi-Orgasmic Man. There’s Barbara Kessling’s How to Make Love All Night: And Drive a Woman Wild!

    There’s Tantra and Taoism, which have been teaching it for centuries.

    There are many contemporary sex coaches helping people get there.

    Let me tell you from my own experience that it’s not a walk in the park learning it. Because we have to deal with all the struggles mentioned within this very article.

    I can’t go into the concrete how’s at this point. But check out the above-mentioned books or Tantra workshops in your town.

    There’s So Much More to It
    Okay, let’s look back at what we now know:

    • Most men suffer from low sensitivity in their penis due to non-beneficial masturbation habits.
    • Men are stimulated locally. They don’t require foreplay per se, but rather full-body stimulation during high states of arousal.
    • Most men can’t let go and show their vulnerability while making love due to gender roles and societal restrictions.
    • The common belief is that the male orgasm is limited to the ejaculation orgasm
    With these points in mind, it’s not surprising that male sexuality is generally seen as very primitive.

    But imagine these four issues being resolved.

     

    That would mean men actually could feel sensations in their penis. That they would be able to feel vaginal walls. The swollen G-Spot. The entrance of the cervix.

    It would mean that men could spread orgasmic sensations throughout their entire body, instead of only experiencing them locally.

    That would mean men could surrender and let go during making love. Instead of being limited to being a mechanical penetrator.

    It would mean men could be able to have multiple orgasms. Men could choose to ejaculate, or not to ejaculate. There would be a huge variety of orgasms available to them.

    Under those circumstances, would you still claim that the male orgasm is simple and mechanical?

    http://omooni.com/blog/male-orgasm-is-not-as-simple-as-everyone-tries-to-tell-you/
     
  2. margarita_nikolayevna

    margarita_nikolayevna owned Contributor

    This is how you remind me  
     
  3. Master Dominus

    Master Dominus New Member

    Το ύστατο για εναν Master ειναι να φτάσει τη σκλαβα του στο να εχει οργασμους κατ' εντολη,χωρις αγγιγμα φυσικα. Για να γινει αυτο η κοπελα πρεπει να εχει παραδωσει - εμπιστευτει στον Κυριο της το μυαλο, τα συναισθηματα και το σώμα. Αν ξέρει τι κανει ο Κυριαρχος της τοτε της ερχεται φυσικα και ειναι παρα μα παρα πολυ εντονο και φυσικα υπαρχει μεγαλυτερη ενωση σκλαβας- Αφέντη.
    Το αληθινο bdsm εχει να κανει και ξεκιναει απο το μυαλό....
    Γενικα μιλωντας στην Ελλαδα ειναι δυσκολο να βρεις αληθινους Masters , συμφωνα με αυτα που ακουω απο τις ''σκλαβες'' μου . Οι περισσοτεροι ειδαν μια ταινια κακεκτυπο του lifestyle και αγορασαν εξοπλισμο, εφτιαξαν δωματια και κανουν ΨΥΧΟΣΩΜΑΤΙΚΕΣ ΖΗΜΙΕΣ!!!! Στα ''κοριτσια'' που δυστυχως πεφτουν στα χέρια τους....
     
  4. Arioch

    Arioch Μαϊμουτζαχεντίν Premium Member Contributor

    Όχι να τον υπηρετεί όπως ακριβώς την έχει εκπαιδεύσει;
     
  5. Brigitte

    Brigitte Premium Member Contributor

    Συγνώμη που πετάγομαι σαν τη τσουτσου..εχμ..
    Οργασμό χωρίς άγγιγμα δηλαδή??  
     
  6. Arioch

    Arioch Μαϊμουτζαχεντίν Premium Member Contributor

    Γίνεται αγαπητή... Αλλά δεν ήταν αυτή η ερώτηση που έκανα  
     
  7. Brigitte

    Brigitte Premium Member Contributor

    Συγνώμη αγαπητέ δεν απάντησα στην ερώτησή σας..
    Πώς γίνεται??
     
  8. Master Dominus

    Master Dominus New Member

    Αυτό ειναι αυτονοητο αγαπητε, απλα οταν φτασεις στην συνδεση του μυαλου της με το δικο σου θα αρχισεις να βλεπεις τελειως διαφορετικες καταστασεις(μπορει να το εχεις κανει). Εχεις πλεον εναν ανθρωπο απενταντι σου ο οποιος ( η σκλαβα στη συγγεκριμενη περιπτωση) σου εχει δωσει τα παντα με ολη την εννοια της λεξης και μπορεις να κανεις τα παντα μεχρι και διαμορφωση- αλλαγη χαρακτηρα - αλλαγη προσωπικοτητας,πραγμα που δε το συνιστω ΚΑΘΟΛΟΥ μα καθολου διοτι ειναι παρα πολυ επικινδυνο ιδιαιτερα δε εαν αυτος που θα το προσπαθησει δεν ειναι εμπειρος και δεν εχει υποβαθρο ψυχολογιας .
    Παντα ως βαση περνουμε τον ανθρωπο οπως και να εχει.
     
  9. Arioch

    Arioch Μαϊμουτζαχεντίν Premium Member Contributor

    Δεν υπάρχει βασιλική οδός γι' αυτό, εξαρτάται τόσο από τον $Top όσο και από τη $bottom (και το θέτω ως μεταβλητές γιατί δεν δουλεύει μόνο για Master/slave, αλλά και σε Dom/sub και θεωρητικά θα μπορούσε να λειτουργήσει και σε απλό T/b αρκεί το b να έχει υποστεί στο παρελθόν κάποια τέτοια εκπαίδευση)
     
  10. Arioch

    Arioch Μαϊμουτζαχεντίν Premium Member Contributor

    Δεν ήθελα να σας μεμφθώ, αν έγινε κάτι τέτοιο αντιληπτό σας ζητώ συγνώμη. Διευκρινιστική ήταν η ερώτησή μου, όσον αφορά τη δική σας οπτική, και σας ευχαριστώ που απαντήσατε. Εγώ προσωπικά καλύφθηκα, στο βαθμό που νομίζω ότι αντιλαμβάνομαι πως το βλέπετε εσείς.
     
  11. gaby_m

    gaby_m open for S/m discussion Premium Member Contributor

    Πολύ δυνατή σωματική κάβλα συν ακραία διέγερση του φαντασιακού. Σε νέες σχετικά ηλικίες, δηλαδή πάνω από τα πενήντα και βάλε δύσκολο το βλέπω.

    Πρώτη φορά μου είχε συμβεί καθώς έβλεπα Μίκυ Ρουρκ στις Άγριες Ορχιδέες, ήμουν λιγότερο από είκοσι και δεν είχε σχέση με bdsm - αυτοί της οθόνης κάτι έκαναν από αυτή την άποψη, εγώ δεν είχα καμία σχέση.
     
  12. Brigitte

    Brigitte Premium Member Contributor

    Διαβάζοντας τα αρχικά ποστ του νήματος αναφέρθηκε η σύσπαση του μουνιού. Οκ αυτό μου έχει συμβεί και χωρίς να έχω δει καν τον άλλο, μόνο με μηνύματα. Αλλά δεν ξέρω αν θα το ονόμαζα οργασμό, γι' αυτό μπερδεύτηκα. Ο οργασμός για 'μενα είναι ο μεγάλος ο κορυφαίος που φτάνεις στο πικ..